I am not a lawyer, nor do I claim to be an expert on intellectual property law. However, I have had a fair amount of exposure to the impact of international trade agreements specifically related to trademark and patent rights through the negotiation of contracts with international customers and suppliers (including Chinese, Japanese, and Russian companies) of my past employers. I have also done quite a bit of research in the area of international copyright law.

International law regarding Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) is similar to most any other international law in that it is comprised primarily of treaties, conventions, and agreements by the member states of international organizations. There is no single entity which is responsible for the administration or enforcement of international law of any type, and for the most part, the laws are only effective to the extent that the member nations administer and enforce their own national laws in compliance with the various treaties and international conventions. In essence, it amounts to an honor system, and historically, some nations have been more honorable than others.

In addition, the various agreements are at times in conflict with each other and not all nations recognize, observe, or are party to all of the agreements in any aspect of international law. Despite these inherent weaknesses in the system of international law, with the improvements in modern communication and increase in international trade, the agreements
are becoming more consistent, and in many areas, compliance is improving globally. It is far from perfect, but it is the best that we have for now.

Following is a short list of international conventions, treaties and other agreements pertaining to International Copyrights. It is not an all-inclusive list, but I believe it does include most of the major agreements. All links are to official sites of the relevant administrative organizations.

Convention Establishing the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/convention/index.html
NOTE: China, Japan, and Russian Federation are contracting parties to the convention.

Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/index.html
NOTE: China, Japan, and Russian Federation are contracting parties to the convention.

Convention for the Protection of Producers of Phonograms Against Unauthorized Duplication of Their Phonograms http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/phonograms/index.html
NOTE: China, Japan, and Russian Federation are contracting parties to the convention.

WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/wct/index.html
NOTE: Japan is a contracting party, China and Tussian Federation are not, but neither are Australia and UK.

Agreement between the United Nations and the World Intellectual Property Organization http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/agreement/index.html
NOTE: China, Japan, and Russian Federation are contracting parties to the agreement.

Agreement Between the World Intellectual Property Organization and the World Trade Organization http://www.wipo.int/clea/docs/en/wo/wo030en.htm
NOTE: China, Japan, and Russian Federation are contracting parties to the agreement.

World Trade Organization: Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/trips_e/trips_e.htm
NOTE: China and Japan are Member Nations, Russian Federation is an Observer on Accelerated Schedule for Accession.

So why am I posting all this? There are three reasons.

1. To provide for those members that have an interest access to the facts according to official sources of information.

2. I have personal friends, and professional acquaintances in China, Japan, and Russia. I do not want to imply that I have any influence in those countries whatsoever. But I can, and am willing to, assist any artist here on WC in contacting and/or communicating with relevant parties in those countries regarding protecting their copyrights. I will not assist or advise anyone on any legal aspects of this issue, as I am not qualified to do so. You should retain your own counsel for this. I will only assist in facilitating communication.

3. A recent thread here regarding a "Chinese ripsite" contained remarks and allegation regarding "[common] Eastern culture" and mentioned "the 'Russias', China and Japan" specifically. It was also stated that violation of copyrights "is NOT considered an offense" in those countries. I find those remarks culturally insensitive at least, personally offensive to me and many people I know in those countries, and patently false. I provided those links to prove that respect for copyrights is in fact a part of the culture, and that violations of copyright laws are in fact an offense in those countries.

I want to add here that I am neither blind, ignorant nor naive. I am very well aware that individuals in those countries have and continue today to violate copyrights and other IPR laws, and that the governments of those nations have done very little or nothing in many cases. But neither the violators nor the government comprise the culture of a country. In fact, quite often, the government of a nation is at distinct odds with the majority of its citizens and its own culture. Piracy and other copyright violations are by no means unique to "Eastern culture", either. This is a worldwide problem with blatant violations on a grand scale. To single out "[common] Eastern culture" is ridiculous as well as offensive.

There is no [common] Eastern culture. The three countries cited specifically have no more in common culturally than any other three nations picked at random from any hemisphere. There will be those that will respond by saying, "But look at how many websites in those countries offer rips and illegal wares." My response to them is, first, you're right. But those countries have made some progress in changing their laws and have committed to further change as well as better enforcement. As an example, I refer you to the most recent report of the WTO/TRIPS regarding China Legislation. http://docsonline.wto.org/gen_searchResult.asp?searchmode=advanced&c2=@meta_Symbol&c4=@Doc_Date&o4=%3E%3D&c5=@Doc_Date&o5=%3C%3D&c6=@meta_Serial_Num&c3=@meta_Title&c8=@Derestriction_Date&o8=%3E%3D&c9=@Derestriction_Date&o9=%3C%3D&q0=%28+@meta_Countries+China%29+%26+%28+@Posting_Date++%3E%3D+2004%2F01%2F01+00%3A00%3A00%29+%26+%28@Posting_Date+%3C%3D+2004%2F06%2F17+23%3A59%3A59%29&q4=&q5=&q8=&q9=&collections=&q2=&ddsday=&ddeday=&q6=&restriction_type=&q3=&subjects=&q1=TRIPS+compliance&ct=DDFEnglish&countries=China&organizations=&products=&articles=&bodies=&types=&drsday=&dreday=&meet_date=&dpsday=01%2F01%2F2004&dpeday=17%2F06%2F2004&mh=&advresult=off&multiparts=on&scndformat=off&search=Search&searchtype=advanced. An abstract of the report provided by the State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO) of the People's Republic of China which summarizes this information is available here: http://www.sipo.gov.cn/sipo_English/gftx_e/zyhd_e/t20040414_28095.htm. Of particular interest may be the section on Administrative Enforcement of Copyright. And second, I would say, do the math. Those countries collectively represent nearly one-fourth of the world population. When you take into account only those more developed nations where computer literacy and access are more prevalent, the percentage is significantly greater.

Are there serious problems with IPR in China, Russia, and Japan? Absolutely. Can the governments of those countries do more to strengthen IPR and enforce those laws against violators? No doubt. But I reemphasize that these problems are not unique to those countries, and officially or otherwise, it is not part of their culture anymore than it is part of the culture of Australia, United Kingdom, United States, or any other developed country. And it is certainly not part of a [common] Eastern culture.





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on Jun 17, 2004
Culturally, China and Russia and other Asian countries tend to view intellectual property much differently than in western countries.  I think that is a fair generalization.
on Jun 17, 2004
Your statement is a fair generalization. The statement regarding "a [common] Eastern culture of 'take it, copy it, and disrtribute it' and to hell with its owners" is not.





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on Jun 17, 2004

The previous instance of provocation was specifically stifled by the thread's author.

If you INSIST on reviving continual chest-beating then do it via email and I will tell you the whole story.

 

on Jun 17, 2004
http://www.bsa.org/IDCstudy/

I could link the pdf's as graphics, but they would be to large to post and to small to read if resized...

China with a 10% cut in it's 92% priacy would still leave 82% priacy rate. But that 10% would add up to 122 Billion dollars...

and it isn't common?

click on the Asian area of the map, then click on the country of choice and see just what it would mean to the US economy for a 10% drop region wide. 170 Billion Dollars...

hello...

obtw: Australia *IS* of the Asian Region, so I guess Jafo, you are into self abuse


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on Jun 17, 2004
Give up, IP....apparently 'common' is a heinously contentious word whose absolution can only be achieved through emasculation of the orator...
on Jun 17, 2004
emasculation


OOOOOOoooooooo.....I like that one
on Jun 17, 2004
*sigh*....
on Jun 18, 2004
My cat's breath smells like cat food.
on Jun 18, 2004
yes, farkus, we know.
on Jun 18, 2004
It's good a good thing that it doesn't smell like Optical Mice

on Jun 18, 2004
Just contact an ISP in Russia about a site hosting pirated software and see what they do.  Compare that to the US.  Sorry, but certain countries don't care about IPR as much as the US.  The generalization, as the Frogman pointed out, is fair.  Just because there are laws does not mean that they are enforced laws.
on Jun 18, 2004
OK, lets put things in perspective here.
It's undeniable that you can buy a music CD or a DVD movie in China for 1$. Out in the open, in a CD/DVD store. Same goes with software. A friend of mine came back from China recently (his wife is chinese) with a whole movie collection aquirred for next to nothing.
Does that make China a bad country and the Chinese a bad people? Of course not. For are the Chinese really more thieves than, say, Americans, or anybody else? Not at all. I really do believe almost anybody would take for free if garanteed not to get caught. Chinese, Russians, Americans, anybody. Are there more Kazaa users in China than in the US? The fact is that there are a whole lot of Kazaa users in the US, just like probably every country with Internet access. The difference with Russia and China are that the ripping is done openly and that the governments do nothing to stop it. Tell the police in the US to not enforce intellectual property crimes and you'll start seeing stores opening everywhere where you'll be able to buy 1$ movies and 10$ versions of Photoshop.
on Jun 18, 2004
Worst thing about Kazaa is that it was created by two bottom-feeding Australians.....Soylent Green wouldn't be good enough for them....
on Jun 18, 2004
Jafo: I am not trying to provoke anything, other than hopefully an informed discussion. In fact, quite the opposite. My purposes for this post are stated quite clearly: To provide access to factual information from reliable sources, To take up the challenge/suggestion you made to me to assist others in getting their works removed from those foreign sites, and to better explain why I was offended by the comments you made. Since the original discussion was public, I felt my explanation should also be public. I will, as you requested, email you to discuss this further.



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